The Poi "I just learned a new advanced move / combo" thread

ehm.. http://www.homeofpoi.com/ubbthreads/linkto/-The-Different-cross-overs-/837614

If you read the comments, Jon corrects him on the terminology. Buzzsaw weave and notcoleman3 are the same thing, and what Insignia calls a "notcoleman3" is a "wrong weave".

Notcoleman5 is the same idea as the notcol3, but with a 2nd-degree wrist twist. It's a 5-beat where you cross over, untwist to 0-degree by making an inswing through buzzsaw frame with the arm on it's home side of the body (not across the body). You then continue to twist up to 2nd-degree (5-beat position) on that side, and do the same thing gong back... rinse, repeat.

YES IT CAME TO ME! I figured out that flower where one is prospin and the other antispin with hands split time same direction. It just came to me. each seperate flower has a different number of petals, but they have the same number of rotations because antispin flowers have 1 more petal than they do rotation. When I had that moment of excited realization, I went to the bug window with my flowlights and IT WORKED! This just made me really happy

I can buzzsaw weave and wrong weave (inverted weave I called it before, but it's a wrong weave) now! Not for long, but for a decent number of passes! Goofy flower is cleaning up too!

Nice! I really struggle with wrong weaves. If you get it smoother, let me know how you do it!

I'm confused, what are wrong weaves?

They're a type of inside move. When both poi are on the same side of the body, the non-native poi spins once inside the arm.

Kinda "meltdown crosser".. I meen, butterfly low meltdown with cross-over.

good feel,

Atomic 3bt weave. Also trying to get this, I sort of stumbled across where the extra twists for a five beat would go, but I'll wait until I've actually got the 3bt down more naturally before I try that.

*reminds herself that she's still got her btb stuff and unit circle hybrids to be working on*

I FINALLY learned the inverted weave a couple days ago :3

Someone I spin with can do that barrel roll continuously. It's pretty nuts.

Is the barrel roll that beatswitch roll thing that Nevisoul does? Also I do it a lot as well One of my favorites. I've only tried doing it around 5 times. I don't remember if I just stopped or it flopped. That I would have to get back to you on.

I have always been confused about what exactly a barrel roll is. To my knowledge its when both your arms are doing an extension same direction and you just go in a straight line.

Oh I call that whirling. I can do that nonstop in place, in a straight line, in a circle, in place but planes rotating, you name it haha. Also I can now switch into antispin while whirling, i can also switch each hand independently, which is how I learned to do it with both. I love things like that and Im surprised I didn't do it in that last video I did, no flowers I mean.

Not talking about whirling. Talking about the part of an inverted weave where you isolate your poi around your arms. Otherwise my reply would be a total non sequitur.

This barrel roll in poi does have a take-off like in modern/lyrical dance right? I'd be hesitant on the take-off without having poi shortened unless it's different than what I know as a barrel roll...

*think it would be more accurately dubbed as a leap of faith*

Also as sloppy as they are, I have managed the buzzsaw flower and butterfly crosser!

Oh thats a barrel roll? I can do that constantly as well. It's just like an isolated buzzsaw, except your arms are kinda crossed like that. Well I should say that, it feels like an isolated buzzsaw, kind of.

I'm working on it, but either my planes explode, or they drop out of isolation and wrap around my arms. Which is weird, since my isolated buzzsaw is pretty clean.

Yeah it's kind of different. Its similar to learning to isolate with your arms crossed.