Name that move!

Just a fun thread. describe a move, being as descriptive or vague as you wish to be, and if applicable 'name the move' above your post.

I'm new as far as how many moves I know so I'll hope someone more skilled than me can get this going

Have fun!

The thing where the poi spin in circles! I love that one

lol, sounds like fun, still a lot of moves&stuff in poi that are so new they don't have a name as such, just a long title of their component parts describing spin type, direction etc. On the other hand how bout we make this thread somewhere to thrash out ideas for names to complex moves? finally cutting down the massive descriptive hybrid titles to shortened nicknames...?
eg 'triquetra' is a commonly used name for a trifoil vs lv.1 extension hybrid...

to get the ball rolling how bout calling an isolation vs. horizontal cateye a big brother eye (or something related)
just a thought...

edit, that might already have a name, just an idea...

Ok I jave an idea, let's knock off certain groups of moves at a time, like since you started with cateye v. isolation hybrid. I think we should first come up with some rules for termilogy of hybrids, like a prefix or suffix to add on or something in the middle of the name that is really short and one means hands together, and one means hands opposite (hand follows poi).

How's that for a start

Isn't that already the distinction between hybrid vs. antibrid?

But yes, I think prefixes like that are a good idea.

E: After rethinking this, is it a good idea to use rules when coming up with "pet names", after all? I mean, "Mercedes" doesn't say a damn thing about what kind of a hybrid it is, but it's still a fun, descripitive name for the pattern.
If one wants to know how a move is done, that's what we have all the other familiar names for (hybrid, antibrid, antispin, inspin, isolated etc..), which are combined to create a detailed description of how a move looks. So they kinda work like prefixes and suffixes in and of themselves. But that isn't really what pet names are for, are they? They're just supposed to be fun.

So yah, on with the original intention of the thread, I'm all for "big brother eye" . Though might I suggest "sheep eye", since sheep actually have the horizontal iris (dunno if it's technically an iris, but you know what I mean...)?

i think having individual terms for hands apart/hands together and the like might be overcomplicating things for now, I think coming up with a name for the pattern itself should be enough for now, prefixes can be added but for now for the really techy side of it but I think it would be more practical to name patterns as a whole and maybe in 6months or so a good shorthand terminology will evolve for specifying the finer points of timing etc...

I'm just fed up of trying to convey in words a move which takes a short paragraph to describe

Yah, Liquid beat me to my edit.. *ninja'd*

I'm still searching for a new combo I can call "the astroglide". And when I find it, you are all obligated to keep that name for it

hahaha

wow, i want to learn it. It's not found yet, but I want to anyway just so I can say I can do the Astroglide. Sounds like a sexy dance move, so the move has to look sexy. Maybe that Nevisoul style beatswitch roll, it's kind of a sexy lookin move

you mean like the lube astroglide?

lol, is that really a lube?

yes its called astroglide rofl

Yup, naming it after the lube.

The moves I've been playing with are the opposite of spinning.

I prefer descriptive names. Just for what it is worth.

I see nothing wrong with calling 30 (different?) moves a hybrid, since the differences are fairly obvious if you are interested enough. If you want to be more specific, spell it all out.

If someone came up to me and asked to learn a big brother eye or a sheep eye or whatever, I would look at them in complete bewilderment. Cat-eye I can live with since it has become fairly common as shorthand.

I point-blank refuse to turn my poi hobby into stamp-collecting or taxonomy.

Yeah, the normal naming system is very straight-forward, but it's so hard to tell someone what the is and you pull out a name that is 20 words long!

I like the longer names, too. The shorter names are often limiting.

4-5 petal triquatra anyone? A lot of people don't even think of this... and its just as easy as a trifoil(2:1 ratio) antispin, extended(1:1 ratio) same direction spin hybrid.

Been thinking a bit more about this. It just does not work if you attempt to use something other than descriptive names.

For example: There are 64 basic compound circles (flowers) made up of:
arms - 2 directions, two timings (8 combinations)
poi - 2 directions, two timings (8 combinations as well)

Some are going to be wall- and some wheel-plane since arms do not always bend or pass through each other quite how we would like, but there is room for variations on the basic 64 anyways (for example: same time, same direction arms can easily swap sides).

So, just to describe flowers, you need 64 distinct names. Add in the complexity of swapping sides or doing flowers in the buzzsaw plane and you suddenly have well over 100 names needed. And this is before we even touch on how many petals (something most would feel is fundamental to describing a distinct flower move [at least, I do, when I want a distinct flower]) are in the flower, bearing in mind that you can have different numbers of petals in each hand. Oh yes, you can do flower moves atomically as well.
Admittedly without crunching the numbers properly, this gives me: 64 (base) + 64 (do in buzzsaw) + 32 (swapping sides on wall-plane flowers, which could be doubled if you swap the other way) + gods alone know how many variations on number of petals
All in all, well over 500 distinct moves by a simple estimate. All of which will need names. Have fun taxonomists!

And do not get me started on hybrids.

You could argue that I am looking at this in too fine a level of detail, but I feel that a flower wherein arms are split-time same direction, poi are split-time, same direction, anti-spun and one wherein arms are split-time same direction and poi are same-time same direction (note that only one variable changed) are distinct enough that they should be given different distinct names. Of course, this is to other spinners, laypeople would probably not be able to pick up the difference and quite frankly, I doubt 99% of them would even care.

If anyone still wants to give non-descriptive names to everything, feel free.

I will admit that some of these flowers are more common than others, but unless they are *very* common, I see no reason to come up with a name for them. An example here would be a cateye, which is common enough that describing something as a cat-eye has no ambiguity, anyway a cat-eye is a slightly special case.

Flowers have existed for a while but ultimately people don't do that many flowers, things have settled to only 8 visual forms: 2 or 4 petal split same inspin, 3 or 4 petal split same antispin, 'goofy' extension vs 3 petal antispin either same or opposite, or 4 petal opposites antispin or inspin.

I think a similar thing will happen with all the hybrids.