BP oil spill

Just in case it slipped your attention

however: 10 things you need (but don't want) to know about the BP oil spill

At the onset of the disaster I had made a personal declaration to boycott BP. Anger to the point of crying over the lack luster efforts to control the disaster and the blatant complacency that BP holds to safety in general. I stand fast with my choice to boycott BP and would encourage others to do so.

Thanks for the Link FT very ionformative stuff

triptician: it's too easy to blame BP alone.

It is happening IN OUR NAME... especially in ours - as fireperformers.

Boycotting BP at the gas pump will get you no-where. It's not as if BP uses its oil only at its own pumps.



[ed] on a sidenote: that exactly is which freaks ME out so much... helplessness any which way.

Woo hoo! Thankyou for that - I'll use that on my radio show tomorrow! Saves me a bit of research

boycott BP? what like the other producers are any different? its the roll of russian roulette that BP are dealing with a situation that could have happened to any other major oil manufacturer.

its like that idiotic chain email trying to rise the masses into boycotting X petrol station on X day, as if its going to make the slightest bit of difference.

all the primary resource industries are getting riskier because we have the push the limits harder to find new economically viable resources. mining firms are delving deeper into africa, and oil firms are going deeper into the ocean.

would the consumer ever be likely to pay more for 'ethically and environmentally' safe oil extraction, if such a thing could exist?

seems like it's all just finally coming together...

what? is this a masterplan from a combustable moose

We're scared up here in Delaware because one storm or hurricane, along with currents, will bring all that around Florida and up on our beaches contaminating the whole east coast and the Chesapeake Bay. None of it had to happen. I'm not sure what I'd call it, but it's not an "oil spill". With demand dropping domestically (which caused a gas price hike, funny yeah?) why they need to drill and exploit the resource is beyond me other than if they stopped they would be unemployed and not making any cash (god forbid a huge conglomerate fail because it would pass on the failure all the way down the chain) but enough is enough IMO.

I'm pretty sure they don't know what they're doing because nothing this insane has ever happened before, but it's no excuse. There are places and things humans were never intended to tinker with. Pretty sure this is one of them...

You are most certainly right. However slefish this may sound, it is the feeling of helplessness that, through my boycott, I hope to negate some of said helplessness. Let me be the first to say some of this feeling is born out of guilt; Guilt for how dependant I am on oil based products, and guilt for taking the end products for granted and not fully understanding the ramifications of when things do go wrong (although they are abundantly clear to me now).

Small actions on an individual level I believe ccan help. Perhaps I am going about things the wrong and you have put the situation into a different light for me. Perhaps the goal for me should be to limit consumption in general, something I have been working on, but now something i will be working on with a little more consistency in the future!

Totally agree we are all hypocrites

I'm glad that you guys started a topic about this on here. The oil spill has deeply saddened and disgusted me. Many different species of animals are being wiped out. What disgusts me is that even with this disaster, Obama just allowed for more offshore drilling in the Gulf. Below are a few links about how the animals are being affected.

http://action.defenders.org/site/MessageViewer?em_id=56681.0&printer_friendly=1
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/04/29/oil.spill.wildlife/index.html
http://www.truthout.org/ten-animals-most-risk-from-gulf-oil-spill59013

Besides doing things like boycotting BP, there's small things here and there that I think we can all do to help even if we're not able to drive down to the Gulf and physically be there to help in the clean up process. In my Etsy shop, I'll be donating $1.00 out of every sale to help save the animals affected by the oil spill. Find an organization and donate to help out, even if it's just $1.00. Some of my friends are having burner parties near me for the oil spill and are telling people to donate things like nylon, money if they can, hair, and fur, to help with the clean up. So you can be doing something fun with a large group of people, and still be doing something to contribute. My mom is part of a huge pirate community and right now she's organizing an event in July to donate money to 3 organizations who are helping with clean up and rescuing the animals. Those are just a few suggestions of things we can do.

What is that twisted attitude that a consumer would have to pay MORE in order for a company to use safer technology?

Why is it always on OUR end? (apart from me already paying more for products NOT manufactured in China, organic foods, etc.)

Is it as if (BP's) CEO'S or SHAREHOLDERS (which again are the general public and institutional investors, who at the end again act in the name of the general public) are some Alien race? Are they NOT living on the very same planet? With the same interest to keep it clean?

Why would WE as consumers have to put up with higher prices and THEM not put up with minor profits????

The safer technology might have cost BP (and subcontractors) as much as $ 500.000... I dearly hope they fry BP, Deepwater Horizon (and Halliburton)... you know how much BP makes in a month? I'm afraid that only at the time that company executives can be held DIRECTLY accountable (i.e. criminal charges) for safety lapses or decisions jeopardizing the safety of workers and the environment - only then we will see change.

As I see it, it is a long due wake up call for us all... I repeat: it's far too easy to blame others - or say "I burn fossil fuels recreationally (but at least I'm veg)"

I'd suggest all of us hypocrites to send a prayer to this planet, it's birds, marine lifeforms every time we light up.

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Oh and I forgot to mention: It's all part of the big conspiracy... Clear evidence that this is a staged event is the fact that already a few years earlier in the movie "Knowing" they are showing an oil rig explosion in the Gulf of Mexico - so apparently the only question is: who blew it up?

CIA? or competitor Exxon? was it Greenpeace? NO! wait - of course it's been either Aquaman or Obama Sin Laden... [sp]

disclaimer: I request the valued reader to view above post with a truckload load of irony

Putting the oil desaster into a conventient location near you

yea - I'm soo not surprised that seem to have lost opinion on the topic the old dog has dun it again - warf warf

BP using Google to manipulate public opinion



I recently listened to a media report, that claimed CNN would fall behind in customer appreciation because it's not playing the emotional game but focuses on "news first"... Now I begin to understand what it means.

- Who would think the "blame and hate" game helps in anything?
- Who'd reckon that the other oil companies have a higher morale?

and in context of Dentrassi's post:

Would they be ready to put up a few cents more for better safety measures? I bet they will as of now. But I they shouldn't have to.

In yet another article in the "Huffington post" the author claims:



Well, apart from the profit attitude being prime on the list of American values, I don't feel that it's been "deserved" or "necessary" and dearly hope that the decisions taken now are not akin "pushing the response-ability out of our own realm and

INVADE BRITAIN!"

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I agree. And is my view on the mining tax. And on a bunch of other things as well.

I think that one of the worst things we can do is get hardened to things like this, which is what is happening. Getting hardened to it means we stop caring as much which means companies can begin to get away with it. We have to maintain the interest!

Yo sweetheart - it was your decision to contain it there and it just wanted to spill over to HoP

Rouge, most people have the habit to retire their interest as soon as it involves self-critique and facing simple facts. It's SOO much easier to "just hate BP" for their actions... and be veg (thus holy)...

okay now - I boycott BP.. in Germany they are called "ARAL" ... now - will it be effective? most likely not - why? - because BP is selling their oil to other companies as well. will I fuel BP oil when fueling up at OMV, JET or free stations (SHELL being out of the question since the "Brent Spa" oil rig)? most likely.

BP details in Wikipedia

Now - WHO OWNS BP? - if you look at this

ownership by country/# of institutions/# of individuals

UK...................33..................7
US...................25.................14
Rest of Europe.......10
Rest of World.........7
msc...................4

This does reflect the helplessness we have today. We can't simply say: THE FRENCH, THE POMMIES, THE YANKS! anymore... the global network is so diverse that it is impossible to play this blame game (if you are not a retard). "Institutions" in this context means that these are banks/trusts/(retirement) funds etc... which again are ordinary people, who ask banks to invest their money in funds...

Maybe YOUR DAD or UNCLE or BROTHER "owns" BP too. Invade Britain! But Britannia is everywhere

Ride your bike*




*I realise that oil goes into more than cars. It's just a frustration of mine when people go all green about the house and do Earth Hour and talk about how good they're being for the environment but still drive for trips they could easily use another mode of transport for.

just popping in to throw this like out there.

[url= http://www.google.com/crisisresponse/oilspill/] http://www.google.com/crisisresponse/oilspill/[/url]
http://www.google.com/crisisresponse/oilspill/

it is a forecast for the movement and spread of the oil spill. it should be wrapping around the keys sometime in the next 72 hours.

If you live in a city that is great, that is not a reality from where I grew up or where I live now where people commute by car 30min-2 hours to work doing 55-65 MPH (don't want to know how long that would take on a bike LOL like 8-10 hours+ minimum?) or any people who live in a rural area (most of the US is rural land, then suburban, the minority is metropolitan).

There's a lot you cannot do on a bike like transport small children, do your grocery shopping, go any long distance to obtain goods (or insert any other routine essential like work/medical/appointments here) and return, etc. I think it only supports a very limited range of lifestyles practically when it comes down to it. Not to mention the handicapped and old (who rely on their ability to drive to make up for their lack of mobility).

Oh yeah and you'd need alternate routes (that in many cases don't exist and would need to be built) because it is illegal to ride a bike (or walk or even use a moped/scooter) on highways or interstates. Forgot that one when I posted which would box in the majority especially myself who must leave town for everything on a routine basis.
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As awful as what happened is I'm going to just say it once...

I see no need in becoming masochistic chastising ourselves for using products derived from crude oil or condemning people claiming/trying to be green for whatever reasons they choose (or to be vegan, normally has nothing to do with being green anyways, most I see are vegan because of ethical or religious reasons). Did any of us customers want more drilling to have more of a stock pile when consumption is at a low? I don't think so and if more people followed the news I don't think they'd see a need either. There is a difference in being green, living greener, and being a normal functional productive member of society but none match the "green ideal" being stated that could reverse the way society functions on a mass scale. If you have appliances in your house, electricity, any products that are mass manufactured (furniture, clothing, yes even bikes!) you have contributed plenty to the oil companies. Infact anyone who lives in an industrialized nation everytime they get groceries, anything basic goods for survival manufactured (corporate or independent businesses or down the chain through both like your local pharmacy as an example), or just mail a letter guess what? Oil (in some form) is being used!

/end rant

Really think about reality and how much good it does making judgments about scolding those who can't/don't live to an ideal standard that is literally impossible during modern times in an industrialized nation in general (unless we should all revert back to caveman life). This situation is heartbreaking to me, for 48 days a mishap from an explosion during the EXPLOITATION of a resource that WE'RE NOT RUNNING LOW ON AND DEMAND IS DOWN is the problem here, not the use of it in a responsible "waste not, want not" manner.

Just giving a different perspective on the big picture. I know everyone has great intentions and that's awesome, but some of these ideas are a bit much to say the least and the sentiment well, you know what I mean...