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#919945 - 17/08/10 02:02 PM Re: Any interest in a Non-toxic Fire Breathing Fuel? [Re: Mike Machina]
Warior Drake Offline
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Registered: 14/04/10
Loc: New York, currently homeless
Yeah, I figured as much about ARDS, I just wanted to throw that out there in case any of our lurkers (do we even have those anymore?) were thinking by "Fire Breathing fuel" you meant it would be safe all around. Regardless of the fuel the practice is always going to be dangerous and anyone who does it, or even thinks about doing it, needs to keep that on their mind at all times. I am, however, for making it relatively safer. I like living.
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#919948 - 17/08/10 03:27 PM Re: Any interest in a Non-toxic Fire Breathing Fuel? [Re: Mike Machina]
Icarus Forde Offline
Just Icarus//Spinner//Pyro//Geek

Registered: 10/04/10
Loc: New Zealand
Yeah, certainly. smile

A lot of it's explained here: http://www.homeofpoi.com/lessons_all/teach/Coloured-Flames-FAQ-1_2_172

The gist of it is that colored flames require a hotter flame and can leave deposits on the wick, thus degrading them, shortening their burn time, creating really terrible smoke, etc.

Other than that, datasheet looks good - sounds like it could be viable! grin

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#920649 - 25/08/10 08:48 AM Re: Any interest in a Non-toxic Fire Breathing Fuel? [Re: Icarus Forde]
Mike Machina Offline
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Registered: 02/08/10
Ah, I see. They are using methylated spirits - a 10/90 to 50/50 mix of methanol and ethanol, with some bitters (denatonium). Alcohols burn hotter than paraffins because of their short chain length and oxygen group, but are necessary to carry the highly polar salts in solution.

This stuff doesn't burn nearly as hot, and I would be getting the salts into solution via essentially a soap - fatty acid/metal cation complex.

You'd still have an issue with salt residue - although this would probably wash off. I dunno, I've yet to make this stuff in any large quantity, let alone test it.

Is there an interest in colored flames that don't eat wicks as fast? I could probably design a fuel for that purpose, too, it would likely be cheaper than the stuff for Fire Breathing, and cheaper to ship, since it isn't a hazmat like alcohols.

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#920678 - 25/08/10 06:03 PM Re: Any interest in a Non-toxic Fire Breathing Fuel? [Re: Mike Machina]
Icarus Forde Offline
Just Icarus//Spinner//Pyro//Geek

Registered: 10/04/10
Loc: New Zealand
I certainly think that there would be. Orange flames are cool... But there's something about a blue or green flame in the middle of all the orange flames that's epicly cool.

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